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		<title>By: Robb Auspitz</title>
		<link>http://vivavisibilityblog.com/can-facebook-be-saved-from-marauding-invaders/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb Auspitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nancy,

Great posting! I agree with you 100%. I generally end up deleting 90% of the Facebook e-mails and 99% of the wall postings I get because they&#039;re just blatent sales pitches. I don&#039;t even bother reading most of them. Thank you again.

Robb Auspitzs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://ra-stores.blogspot.com/2008/06/how-to-hang-just-about-anything-easily.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Hang Just About Anything Easily&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nancy,</p>
<p>Great posting! I agree with you 100%. I generally end up deleting 90% of the Facebook e-mails and 99% of the wall postings I get because they&#8217;re just blatent sales pitches. I don&#8217;t even bother reading most of them. Thank you again.</p>
<p>Robb Auspitzs last blog post..<a href="http://ra-stores.blogspot.com/2008/06/how-to-hang-just-about-anything-easily.html" rel="nofollow">How to Hang Just About Anything Easily</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Marmolejo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Marmolejo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the Viva Visibility Facebook Video Tips at http://www.YouTube.com/user/VivaVisibility as it will show you this isn&#039;t a problem that just popped up yesterday! 

(Made the videos in April 08 which is like 7 years ago in social networking time LOL!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the Viva Visibility Facebook Video Tips at <a href="http://www.YouTube.com/user/VivaVisibility" rel="nofollow">http://www.YouTube.com/user/VivaVisibility</a> as it will show you this isn&#8217;t a problem that just popped up yesterday! </p>
<p>(Made the videos in April 08 which is like 7 years ago in social networking time LOL!)</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Sutherland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Sutherland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Nancy and I totally agree. Another thing that annoys me on FB is all of those applications. If you are new on Facebook it seems harmless and cute to add a couple, but then it proceeds to send it to everyone who is your friend on FACEBOOK. Do we really need all of that extra stuff? Would it be wrong to turn off all application requests? I have deleted some that I got in the beginning and I have found that you can&#039;t add them again later ( not that I would want to) The constant &quot;requests&quot; take just as much time as going through all of the emails and reduce productivity if we are trying to use FACEBOOK for business.

Nancy Sutherlands last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://nancymkqueen.wordpress.com/2008/07/09/free-virtual-makeover/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Free Virtual Makeover!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Nancy and I totally agree. Another thing that annoys me on FB is all of those applications. If you are new on Facebook it seems harmless and cute to add a couple, but then it proceeds to send it to everyone who is your friend on FACEBOOK. Do we really need all of that extra stuff? Would it be wrong to turn off all application requests? I have deleted some that I got in the beginning and I have found that you can&#8217;t add them again later ( not that I would want to) The constant &#8220;requests&#8221; take just as much time as going through all of the emails and reduce productivity if we are trying to use FACEBOOK for business.</p>
<p>Nancy Sutherlands last blog post..<a href="http://nancymkqueen.wordpress.com/2008/07/09/free-virtual-makeover/" rel="nofollow">Free Virtual Makeover!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maria Mar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria Mar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve done it again, Nancita! Your finger in the pulse, your heart right where it needs to be.

Today I took half a day to catch up in Facebook and to let everyone know about my upcoming event. When I visited a group, I read what was posted, and commented. I joined discussion groups and sometimes started one. I left an invitation respectfully explaining how the event benefited those in each group. But I have to say, it was tough.

The percentage of people who are takers and not givers in Facebook is a reflection on group dynamics everywhere. There are those who create an organization, those who work to make it strong, those who make cakes and sell tickets... and those who come to eat and will complain because they have to pay the contribution price. 

The walls in most groups I have visited are full of people who leave quick comments, who talk and don&#039;t listen, who go in to &quot;make a kill&quot; (I&#039;m quoting one wall comment) and do not contribute. Even when the moderator asks people to contribute or they will be deleted, the majority simply do not.

The irony of this is that this is atrocious marketing. Marketing is a process that begins with attracting attention, then sharing information and creating affiliation, then stepping it up by providing value and letting people know how else they can benefit in the exchange, and then the people are ready to become your costumers, or perhaps refer someone to you, or in some other way add value to your life because you have earned their trust and you have become familiar to them.

In contrast to this truly effective marketing, I remember hearing these words from a marketing lady in a presentation, this in response to the use of art to promote audience engagement, &quot;intimacy is the client buying the product.&quot; 

And there lies the problem. When you do not care for your clients you are intrusive, vampiristic, opportunistic, a taker, inconsiderate and aggressive. The school that Carrie talks about is what I call the &quot;Product Pushers.&quot; I remember not being able to answer a survey because they were asking me if I was promoting my service aggressively. Why should I promote it aggressively? I knew that they meant persistently and with commitment. But I was not willing to exchange one meaning for another, so I left the survey.

 Aggressively does NOT mean effectively. It means that you are not respecting people&#039;s boundaries, not creating relationships and, at the core of the matter, you are acting from fear, hunger and need to control. 

This is addictive behavior, not power. The illusion that this behavior brings is that you are in control, and that you are doing something and moving forward. But that is a mirage. Action and movement are not the same. Action means doing something with purpose, strategy and deliberation to move into a desired position. Taking an action changes reality, moving you towards your goals and dreams. Movement is repeating the same behavior over and over, unthinkingly, aggressively. I believe that Albert Einstein defined this as madness.

I remind you all, beautiful beings of light, that there is no reason to fear, not even in the so called recession, which is also a perception. I remind you that Facebook is a ground where our Shadows get magnified and mirrored back to us. Shadows are fear-based defensive Inner Selves. They are learned responses that arise from fear and try to achieve a measure of control. 

As I said before in another post, Networking is the Female Face of Prosperity. What we are seeing here, at a spiritual, global energy shift, is that the Patriarchal, Male-only Face of Prosperity, the &quot;aggressive&quot; marketing must change. The Male Face of Prosperity must marry the Female Face of Prosperity. This is the Earth global movement. It is a cosmic reaction that is trying to help humanity survive the 2012 dimensional shift, predicted long ago by the Mayans, among other Wise Native People of the world. &quot;The sun will burn itself down from movement&quot; was the wording. 

The sun represents the Male Face of Power. We are moving too quickly, too aggressively, developing technologically and scientifically, but not intellectually, creatively or spiritually. This aggressive movement, reflected on the type of marketing we are seeing, results in loss of values. To bring balance to this accelerated grow, the Female Face of Power needs to be honored and married to the Male Face of Power. This is the new paradigm that will help us &quot;slow down&quot; while at the same time we accelerate our energy frequency. It&#039;s happening at many levels, and this Facebook War is sort of a Star Wars for this galactic shift.

This is what I see, and I join my voice to yours. The question is how can we change this behavior?

Nancy, you are doing a great job of helping us stay in track, change Shadow-behavior and reflect on these issues. What else can each of us do?

I have observed that there are certain groups where this Shadow behavior is not taking root. The groups are creative, intimate, promote questions that deal with personal experience and encourage topics that uplift and illuminate. I believe that the moderators of the groups, like a store manager in a locale, set the environment and style. Therefore, we have a place to start in the wave of change.


Light and Love,
Maria Mar
The Dream Alchemist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve done it again, Nancita! Your finger in the pulse, your heart right where it needs to be.</p>
<p>Today I took half a day to catch up in Facebook and to let everyone know about my upcoming event. When I visited a group, I read what was posted, and commented. I joined discussion groups and sometimes started one. I left an invitation respectfully explaining how the event benefited those in each group. But I have to say, it was tough.</p>
<p>The percentage of people who are takers and not givers in Facebook is a reflection on group dynamics everywhere. There are those who create an organization, those who work to make it strong, those who make cakes and sell tickets&#8230; and those who come to eat and will complain because they have to pay the contribution price. </p>
<p>The walls in most groups I have visited are full of people who leave quick comments, who talk and don&#8217;t listen, who go in to &#8220;make a kill&#8221; (I&#8217;m quoting one wall comment) and do not contribute. Even when the moderator asks people to contribute or they will be deleted, the majority simply do not.</p>
<p>The irony of this is that this is atrocious marketing. Marketing is a process that begins with attracting attention, then sharing information and creating affiliation, then stepping it up by providing value and letting people know how else they can benefit in the exchange, and then the people are ready to become your costumers, or perhaps refer someone to you, or in some other way add value to your life because you have earned their trust and you have become familiar to them.</p>
<p>In contrast to this truly effective marketing, I remember hearing these words from a marketing lady in a presentation, this in response to the use of art to promote audience engagement, &#8220;intimacy is the client buying the product.&#8221; </p>
<p>And there lies the problem. When you do not care for your clients you are intrusive, vampiristic, opportunistic, a taker, inconsiderate and aggressive. The school that Carrie talks about is what I call the &#8220;Product Pushers.&#8221; I remember not being able to answer a survey because they were asking me if I was promoting my service aggressively. Why should I promote it aggressively? I knew that they meant persistently and with commitment. But I was not willing to exchange one meaning for another, so I left the survey.</p>
<p> Aggressively does NOT mean effectively. It means that you are not respecting people&#8217;s boundaries, not creating relationships and, at the core of the matter, you are acting from fear, hunger and need to control. </p>
<p>This is addictive behavior, not power. The illusion that this behavior brings is that you are in control, and that you are doing something and moving forward. But that is a mirage. Action and movement are not the same. Action means doing something with purpose, strategy and deliberation to move into a desired position. Taking an action changes reality, moving you towards your goals and dreams. Movement is repeating the same behavior over and over, unthinkingly, aggressively. I believe that Albert Einstein defined this as madness.</p>
<p>I remind you all, beautiful beings of light, that there is no reason to fear, not even in the so called recession, which is also a perception. I remind you that Facebook is a ground where our Shadows get magnified and mirrored back to us. Shadows are fear-based defensive Inner Selves. They are learned responses that arise from fear and try to achieve a measure of control. </p>
<p>As I said before in another post, Networking is the Female Face of Prosperity. What we are seeing here, at a spiritual, global energy shift, is that the Patriarchal, Male-only Face of Prosperity, the &#8220;aggressive&#8221; marketing must change. The Male Face of Prosperity must marry the Female Face of Prosperity. This is the Earth global movement. It is a cosmic reaction that is trying to help humanity survive the 2012 dimensional shift, predicted long ago by the Mayans, among other Wise Native People of the world. &#8220;The sun will burn itself down from movement&#8221; was the wording. </p>
<p>The sun represents the Male Face of Power. We are moving too quickly, too aggressively, developing technologically and scientifically, but not intellectually, creatively or spiritually. This aggressive movement, reflected on the type of marketing we are seeing, results in loss of values. To bring balance to this accelerated grow, the Female Face of Power needs to be honored and married to the Male Face of Power. This is the new paradigm that will help us &#8220;slow down&#8221; while at the same time we accelerate our energy frequency. It&#8217;s happening at many levels, and this Facebook War is sort of a Star Wars for this galactic shift.</p>
<p>This is what I see, and I join my voice to yours. The question is how can we change this behavior?</p>
<p>Nancy, you are doing a great job of helping us stay in track, change Shadow-behavior and reflect on these issues. What else can each of us do?</p>
<p>I have observed that there are certain groups where this Shadow behavior is not taking root. The groups are creative, intimate, promote questions that deal with personal experience and encourage topics that uplift and illuminate. I believe that the moderators of the groups, like a store manager in a locale, set the environment and style. Therefore, we have a place to start in the wave of change.</p>
<p>Light and Love,<br />
Maria Mar<br />
The Dream Alchemist</p>
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		<title>By: Mari Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mari Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Nancy!!! You rock. Love these sentiments. (Great look/feel to your new newsletter, btw!!)

Gosh, only 78 messages? LOL. I exposed my message count on my Facebook Masterclass yesterday - my students gasped at the 404 unopened. Gak! Many are old. Most I just cannot get to and am handing over to my VA to manage. It&#039;s one of the challenges of growing your network as you know. 

Thanks for flying the flag of proper socnet etiquette!!

Cheers,
Mari
@marismith

Mari Smiths last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WhyFacebook/~3/329160762/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Social Media: Modern Day Gold Rush?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Nancy!!! You rock. Love these sentiments. (Great look/feel to your new newsletter, btw!!)</p>
<p>Gosh, only 78 messages? LOL. I exposed my message count on my Facebook Masterclass yesterday &#8211; my students gasped at the 404 unopened. Gak! Many are old. Most I just cannot get to and am handing over to my VA to manage. It&#8217;s one of the challenges of growing your network as you know. </p>
<p>Thanks for flying the flag of proper socnet etiquette!!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Mari<br />
@marismith</p>
<p>Mari Smiths last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WhyFacebook/~3/329160762/" rel="nofollow">Social Media: Modern Day Gold Rush?</a></p>
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